Monday, 27 February 2012
CHILDREN OF JEAN-BAPTISTE ANTOINE LAFRENIERE and MARGUERITE LOISEAU
(Please note that I could not find any church documents confirming the marriage of Antoine III's son Jean Baptiste and Marguerite Loiseau, which is very odd. Read the footnote to ponder an interesting tidbit.)
Based on Doreen (Livingston) Moore's notes:
1. May, born 1781.
2. Amable, born 1783.
3. Claude, born 1785.
4. Augustine Jean-Baptiste, born 1787.
5. Joseph Jean-Baptiste, born 1793.
6. Julie Jean Baptiste, born 1795.
7. Antoine Jean Baptiste, born 1800 at St. Croix, Ontario; married Madeleine McTavish on 5 August 1826 at St. Croix, Ontario; died 2 December 1880 Lafontaine, Ontario.
FOOTNOTE: An interesting development strictly based on parish records- If we return to the children of Antoine II Desrosiers dit Lafreniere and Marie Renee Lepelle dite Desmarets, their son Jean Baptiste Charles, born 26 December 1721, married Marguerite Vanasse dit Vertefeuille in 1749 and they had 4 children (Sadly, mother Marguerite died in 1757 at age 28).
One of their 4 children, Jean Baptiste Desrosiers dit Lafreniere, was born in 1752. Jean Baptiste grew up and married Marie Marguerite Loiseau dit Francoeur on 8 February 1779 in Louisville QC, as recorded in the Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection) 1621-1967 image 192. They had many children and some of them were Amable (born 1783), Jean Baptiste (born 1780), Marguerite, Claude (born 1785), Augusten (born 1787), Genevieve (1789), Angelique (born 1791), Joseph (born 1793), and Julie (born 1795). Please note the similarities to the children listed above.
Is this just a coincidence or is there more to it? I will spend the next week trying to figure this out.
Of course, I only wanted to share this with you so that we can share my confused state of mind :). My Mom always taught me that it's always nice to share!
Monday, 20 February 2012
What's involved in Family Research? and the
THE CHILDREN OF ANTOINE III DESROSIERS dit LAFRENIERE
Based on the documents I have, Doreen worked on the family history for at least 7 years. In early 1980, she made copies of documents and derived data from microfiche, books and newspaper articles borrowed from Trail Library, Selkirk College and Ottawa's Public Archives of Canada. She obtained more information by visiting and talking with family members, such as Bernadette Chabot who was Joseph Magloire's daughter. Bernadette supplied Doreen a copy of a family tree which had been composed by an earlier descendant named Marie Louise (Dierxct) Lafreniere (died 1963) - and if anyone reading this has a copy of it, I would love to read it.
Doreen also requested guidance from the Manitoba Geneaological Society about how to conduct family history research. I also believe she examined original parish records (my Grandma, Marguerite Livingston told me) while visiting Manitoba to determine birth, marriage, and burial data. In addition, she visited the museum at the Plains of Abraham in Quebec although I am uncertain as to the when this occurred. And she relied on several of her siblings to help with translating French records, supporting her research, pulling her leg, and helping her find new data and photographs. Finally in 1987, her masterpiece was done and many family members received a copy of her wonderful family history record.
Saturday, 11 February 2012
1 May 1760 in Quebec City, QC.
9 October 1747 - both marriages took place at Trois Rivieres; died?
5. Marie Agnes, born 22 August 1706, married Joseph Jean-Denis 20 June 1725, died ? at I’lle Dupas.
Jean PIETTE dit TREMPE (born in France in 1641; died 17 February 1730 in Berthier, QC), married Marguerite CHEMEREAU (born in France in 1651; died 15 September 1715 in Sorel, QC).
To protect the colonists, Louis XIV sent his French garrison, Carignan-Salieres Regiment, of about 1,200 men in 1665. Amongst them was Jean PIETTE dit TREMPE.
Four years later, Marguerite CHEMEREAU emigrated to Canada in 1669 on board the ship ”Saint Jean Baptiste”. She was a “Fille du Roi”, or" All the Kings Daughters". (This is not a direct reference to her relationship to the king. Instead, she had a different mission in mind.) From 1663 to 1673, these women agreed to travel to New France and marry a settler there in exchange for a 50 pound dowry from the French King, Louis XIV.
Prior to her departure from France, Marguerite CHEMEREAU had endured the “Fille du Roi” screening process, which required each girl to present her birth certificate and a recommendation from her parish priest or local magistrate stating that she was free to marry. It was necessary that the girls be of appropriate age for giving birth and that "they be healthy and strong for country work, or that they at least have some aptitude for household chores." (Source: King's Daughters and Founding Mothers: The Filles du Roi, 1663-1673 by Peter J. Gagné. Pawtucket, RI: Quinton Publications, 2001. pp 15-42).
- a pair of chickens
- a pair of pigs
- an oxen
- a cow
- two barrels of salted meat
Well, not to prolong the drama any further:
Jean and Marguerite's child Pierre was born on 23 December 1670. He married Marie HAREL on 22 November 1700, and one of their five children was Angelique PIETTE dite TREMPE born on 31 January 1704 at I'lle Dupas.
(In case you were wondering about the French use of the "dit" names: "dit" or "dite" means "called" in French, and it is like our "nicknames".)
Thursday, 9 February 2012
Giullaume ISABEL arrived in Trois Rivieres in 1634, where he occupied a piece of land. Two years later, he obtained a second parcel of land, in 1648, he married Catherine DODIER and in 1652, he was killed by the Iroquois, leaving two daughters. One daughter later married the father of Marie Renee LEPELLE. Her name was Jean ISABEL.
In her second marriage, Catherine had nine children: Francois (m), Francoise (f), Claude (m), Joseph (m), Pierre (m), Marie (f), Catherine (f), Perrinne (f), Marie Madeleene (f).
Jean LEPELLE sieur DES MARETS (in some records, DESMAREST), was born in 1641. In 1667, he married Jeanne ISABEL and died at Champlain 17 June 1708. Their children are as follows:
1. Francoise born 21 October 1667 at Trois Rivieres, married Martin CASAUBON (Sergent) 14 February 1689.
2. Antoine born 1669, married Barbe GODFROY 20 June 1700, died February 1734.
3. Pierre born 1671.
4. Francois born 1674.
5. Marie-Renee born 1678, married ANTOINE DESROSIERS II dit LAFRENIERE 26 November 1696.
6. Catherine born 27 January 1682; married Bernard BRISSET 1 February 1712.
7. Alexis born 26 December 1684; married Jeanne BIGOT 6 July 1710.
Tuesday, 7 February 2012
Friday, 3 February 2012
As stated in Doreen's account, Antoine had been captured along with two other hunters by the Iroquois in 1659 and in the 1650's, there were several Iroquois attacks in this region. The Governor de Lauzon ordered all able-bodied men from the ages of 16 to 60 to stand as nightwatchmen to protect the inhabitants of Trois-Rivieres and Antoine was amongst the many who participated. While Antoine managed to escape after eleven weeks of capture, his companions were not as fortunate: one was tortured and the other put to death by fire. No historian could ever depict accurately the anguish and the suffering of our ancestor and his family during those eleven weeks of his absence.
Antoine's energy was absolutely astounding. In 1667, Desrosiers lived at Cap-de-La-Madeleine, where he owned a farm with 5 animals and he was the father of 8 children. His son Michel had replaced the farm hand, Jacaues Bourdin, on the family farm. In 1669, he became fiscal manager, a position which he filled until his death, as the new seigneurie of Champlain. He was also a trustee and a seigneurial judge. By this time, Desrosiers had two domestics, four rifles, four pistols, nine animals and forty arpents (one arpent = 0.85 acres) of land under cultivation. With so many firearms, one must assume that the family was well versed in hunting and self-protection. Perhaps his experience with the Iroquois made him more alert to unexpected happenstance.
Upon his death, amongst his belongings included some works on law and history, the Coutume de Paris in two volumes, the Ordinances Civile, and six small books by various authors. Obviously, Antoine had understood the value of an education and sent his daughter Marie to study under the Ursuline.
"The dispute concerned the alignment of the concessions granted to them. Antoine Desrosiers claimed as his own a tract of land he had cleared and that was found to belong to Helie Grimard. At least the official opinion issued by Gentlemen of the Sovereign Council. The judgment, Desrosiers was willing to comply, but it was he had done the clearing for his neighbor. Where new baffles, new disputes. Fortunately, we arrived at an agreement. Desrosiers will enjoy another year of three acres of cleared land on Grimard. Meanwhile, it will clear three acres of land owned by Antoine Desrosiers Champlain. A notarized contract first went to Quebec in the spring of in 1665. It is confirmed by the notary Ameau on 17 November."
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